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Dear
Albert hi. We didn't have to
wait too long this time for a "Forsaken"
release. However there is a long period
between your official releases, "Evermore"
and "Anima Mundi". We know
some of the reasons, but would you
like to point out the main ones according
to you.
Let's not forget
our 2002 MCD "Iconcoclast"
which helped to re-launch the band
in the international doom scene. Although
we referred to it as a MCD, it runs
for 35 minutes, which is close to
the length most full-length albums
have nowadays. But you're right;
there was a long lull in the band
between 1996's "Evermore"
and our most recent releases on Golden
Lake. The delay was due to a variety
of reasons. First after "Evermore"
we went through a lengthy soul-searching
exercise as regards to which musical
direction we wanted the band to take.
This was quite an arduous exercise
as there were different opinions in
the band at the time. When the issue
was settled, we were hit by Daniel's
(guitarist 1993-2001) illness, which
was obviously a huge blow to the band
on all counts. Daniel fought courageously
against his disease for about two
whole years and sadly passed away
early in 2001. Obviously during that
time our main priority was supporting
Daniel and not the band. He is still
missed, both as a band member and
as a friend, and serves as an inspiration
for us all.
The press
has embraced "Anima Mundi",
but what's the general feedback
that you have from the audience? Do
you have specific aims for "Anima
Mundi"?
From the gigs we've
done so far to promote the album,
I can tell you that the audience reaction
to the album has been fantastic and
sales have been very encouraging.
With "Anima Mundi" we hope
to continue to establish ourselves
at the pinnacle of the doom metal
scene worldwide. It's a small,
tightly-knit scene, but the amount
of quality bands in the doom scene
is indeed astounding. For us to be
finally acknowledged after all these
years as a potent force within the
genre that we are deeply committed
to is enough recognition for our efforts.
We are not interested in breaking
through the mainstream or becoming
the next big metal MTV stars, we've
long abandoned such dreams of grandeur
(and I'm not too sure whether
we've ever had them!). We formed
Forsaken to play doom metal and to
gain respect for what we do. This
is what has propelled the band through
what could have been quite insurmountable
difficulties and is still the major
driving force behind us.
This time
you move even closer to the epic doom
metal idiom, as the two main bands
of the genre, Candlemass and Solitude
Aeturnus, expressed it. Its obvious
enough that you are returning to the
roots of the band and what I want
to ask you is this: do you think "Evermore"
was an intermission?
Epic doom metal is
what Forsaken set out to play right
from our early days. This is amply
clear in our incipient releases, that
is, our 1991 debut demo "Requiem"
and the 1993 7" "Virtues
of Sanctity" (issued on the French
label Arkham Productions). In spite
of the various influences we drew
into our music at the time, I think
no-one can dispute that those were
both epic doom metal releases. Yes,
I certainly argue with you our first
full-length CD "Evermore"
(1996, Storm Records) was more of
an interlude between those early releases
and our recent albums on Golden Lake.
Don't forget one thing. Between
those early days and the release of
"Iconoclast" we had gone
through various turbulent periods
in our line-ups, so the interlude
can also be explained as the result
of long periods of instability where
we still did not find enough coherence
between members in terms of the style
of doom we wanted to pursue. There
was quite a lot of experimentation
still going on and this is amply clear
on "Evermore". This said,
that album certainly has its strong
points and includes a number of great
tracks in my opinion including "Season's
End", "Winter Tears",
"Madrigal" and "Sufferance".
We don't disown the album or
anything like that and in fact we're
currently working on the possibility
of re-releasing "Evermore"
in limited digi-pack format with Golden
Lake.
"Evermore"
was quite different, due to this groovy
touch that had, right (of course it
had more elements apart from this)?
How do you make up your minds for
the direction of the band? Is it a
spontaneous reflection of your feelings
or a well thought decision?
Like
I said, during that time there was
a lot of experimentation with diverse
styles within the genre, which in
a way was also a reflection of the
stuff we were listening to. For example,
I remember still being enthralled
by Sleep's debut release and
this influence can be heard on the
hippy groove we pick up on "Vertigo".
On the other hand there's a
strong Trouble and Obsessed vibe going
on also, especially on the albums
first three songs. "Evermore"
can be seen as a very kaleidoscopic
album, represented the various shades
(or shapes!) of doom, from the more
groovier stuff to some very strong
epic and mournful doom as in "Season's
End" and "Winter Tears".
After the album was released though,
we did sit back for some time and
reflect on what direction we wanted
Forsaken to take. This was also another
trying and difficult time in the band
as we had two factions each pulling
the band in different directions.
Finally, to cut the long story short,
sense prevailed and we decided consciously
to re-visit our natural epic doom
metal oriented habitat and we recruited
a new keyboard player (Mario Ellul)
in 1998 to help us go further in this
direction. By 1999 the foundations
for the new direction were set and
we had already built a strong new
track list. Unfortunately, after Daniel's
illness and eventual passing away
it took us quite a long time to get
back into the studio (nearly 3 years!)
but finally we managed to do, even
more so, as we felt that we owed it
to Daniel to keep the flame burning!
Somehow we
haven't heard any covers from
you. Do you like covering songs and
if yes which are your favorite songs
that you cover?
We did in fact release
a cover of "Neon Knights"
for a Dio-era, Black Sabbath tribute
released on Tom Blackwell's
Mid West Metal Productions (USA),
which also featured contributions
from Memory Garden, Last Chapter and
Mood (now Wall of Sleep) apart from
several other bands. Our cover also
includes a take on E5150 as an intro.
It's quite a good cover really
and is also Daniel's last ever
outing in a studio so we're
quite endeared to it. We have plans
of issuing it as a bonus track on
one of our forthcoming releases. Our
live set also often includes covers
from Ozzy era-Sabbath. Over the years
we've done lots of Sabbath covers
in our live gigs, including "Into
the Void", "Children of
the Grave", "Symptom of
the Universe" and of course "Black
Sabbath", the doom metal anthem
of all time. We shall be doing another
cover from a seminal doom metal band
at the next HOA in Germany next July,
but I shall not reveal it here…it'll
be a surprise. As you may note we
do enjoy doing covers, but at the
end of the day we're not a cover
band or anything like that so we always
ensure that our live set is always
primarily based on our numbers. The
same applies for the studio. An album
should be a showcase for the band's
material rather than anything else.
We have talked
a lot about the Maltese scene in the
past. I know that it's hard
to be from a small country. Do you
think now, that Malta is becoming
a member of the European Union, you
will have more opportunities and you
will be treated with more respect?
Being
in the EU should definitely speed
up the process of commuting to and
fro Malta and the European mainland,
as prior to May 1st traveling was
hindered by lots of bureaucracy and
all sorts of unnecessary red-tape.
We're also looking forward for
the possibility of the introduction
of more flight operators offering
flights at budget prices as you have
in other European countries. Importing
our own CD stock from the label should
now also prove less costly and tiring
as all trade barriers have been dismantled
upon EU entry. On a similar tangible
level, Malta's introduction
into the Eurozone should also prove
beneficial for us as we don't
have to go through lots of red-tape
when it comes to dealing with foreign
currencies. Obviously, there is also
the prospect of settling in another
country, which is more open to metal
so to speak. This should be the way
forward for Maltese metal bands seeking
to really establish themselves in
Europe, however it's definitely
not on the cards for us at this stage.
As regards to whether we shall be
treated with more respect now than
before, I am convinced that such respect
should not depend on one's country
of origin, one's politics or
so forth….at the end of the
day it is the band's musical
dexterity which should be the pivotal
point to ensure standing in the international
scene, and nothing else.
Would you
like to describe shortly the cover
of "Anima Mundi"? How important
is the cover for a CD release?
The cover represents
the themes the themes are broadly
reflected in the album title –
"Anima Mundi" (that is the
soul or spirit of the earth). We define
this as the duality of humankind's
existence and the resultant synthesis
from this duality. That is, humankind's
existence is contingent upon birth
(represented the artwork by the human
figure) and death (depicted by a raven
in flight). The synthesis of this
process (on a symbolic level) is our
music, which can be seen as a metaphor
for the re-generation of the soul.
I think an album should be attractive
on all fronts. Obviously the music
and lyrical content should have priority,
but the packaging should also be given
importance and it is an important
selling point.
You seem
to give great importance to the lyrics.
It's crystal clear that they
are dark and have a philosophical
scent, but would you like to give
us some more insight about the lyrics?
Each of the tracks
explores the broad theme highlighted
above. Let's consider "Sephiroth"
and "The Eyes of Prometheus"
as examples. Both deal with the lyrical
persona's journey in a world
captivated by solitude, isolation
and the yearning for compassion. Unknowingly
though and pushed by earthly and instinctual
pressures, the persona ventures further
into the depths of despair and depravity.
"Kindred Veil" and "Carpe
Diem" on the other hand are imbued
with more optimism in an ambivalent
way. The are introspective reflections
by myself (in the case of "Kindred
Veil") and Leo on "Carpe
Diem" on the challenges which
the band faced throughout recent years
emphasizing the understanding that
there is hope for the human spirit
that even in the face of death. Some
critics have identified a general
lyrical concept running through the
album. To be honest I found this quite
an interesting observation. In fact
though, we did not have any plans
for an overall general concept while
we were in the studio, we started
to realize that some of the tracks
had profound connections on both the
lyrical and musical level, so you
could say "Anima Mundi"
has a subtle conceptual theme running
through it which was gradually yet
markedly revealed to us.
This is
the second release with Golden Lake
Productions. This means that you are
satisfied with their work? If you
were able to ask something from them,
what would you ask them to provide
you and support you?
Yeah,
we're very satisfied with how
things have worked out with the label
and we've just signed another
two-album deal with them, which should
see two new albums released in January
05 and January 06. They've been
very supportive on all fronts, particularly
in relation to distribution and promotion.
"Anima Mundi" is already
in its second press and the album
has also been licensed to another
label, which shall be responsible
for re-releasing it in Russia and
the CIS states. Obviously, there are
always areas for improvement, particularly
as regards to support for touring
and so on. We've started some
discussions in this regard, but touring
does not just depend on financial
backing. As we all work full-time
and have loads of other responsibilities,
it is difficult to reconcile such
matters with extensive touring. At
this stage we are prioritizing some
festival appearances abroad as it
is both less costly and more effective
as you're reaching out to many
people at one go, while with touring
there is always the risk of having
lowly attended gigs. At the same time
we have experienced touring before
and we are looking forward for the
possibility of touring again in the
future.
I know that
you have sent a lot of promos to many
labels for a contract. Many of them
rejected you, but did you have any
feedback? Why didn't they want
to sign with you? Was this correlated
with the publicity of your musical
genre?
When we sent out
copies of our 2002 demo to different
labels we received concrete interest
from about 5 labels. Finally, the
choice was between Golden Lake and
another small label, but we opted
for Golden Lake as they offered the
most advantageous conditions and seemed
most enthusiastic to sign the band.
Generally, the feedback was quite
positive and surprisingly most labels
did in fact bother to reply to us,
but signing an epic doom band was
not on their cards at the time. I
don't know whether the situation
has changed for doom bands now with
the current doom metal revival, but
at the end of the day doom metal has
a very limited appeal, and it is unlikely
that it will develop into a mainstream
metal trend or anything like that,
so labels are not very enthusiastic
to sign acts such as ourselves. It's
a real pity that some very good doom
bands are still unsigned, while several
untalented acts jumping on the current
trendy bandwagon get all sorts of
exposure. At the same time this allows
the possibility for doom to retain
its authenticity and remain uncorrupted
by mainstream business interests.
God forbid if ever doom metal becomes
the next trend. Knowing the people
in the scene it's unlikely that
this scenario will ever develop. However,
I certainly hope that more underground
metal labels with the right sort of
mind set provide the necessary platform
for those upcoming doom metal bands
out there to at least find an appropriate
avenue for their music.
I know very
well that you recently have been performing
duties of a journalist for a webzine.
How hard is it for a musician to judge
the scene through the eyes and the
perspective of a journalist, if of
course we can call web authors journalists?
I've
recently started contributing some
reviews and other articles to Monolith
Webzine (Greece). As I've remarked
elsewhere, I see this as another way
of sharing my passion for doom metal
with other like-minded souls. I have
no problems with being as objective
as possible, although as anything
in life, one always has his or her
own biases. It would be pretentious
to claim otherwise. In fact I often
restrict to reviewing stuff that I
feel I'm informed about as otherwise
I don't think I can ensure as
objective a review as possible."
Doom Shall
Rise festival tends to be a major
event for the European doom metal
scene. Would you like to give us your
perspective for this kind of events?
I've been to
both Doom Shall Rise festivals, the
first one with the band as we were
on the bill, and this year as a fan.
Believe me both events shall be forever
close to my heart and they were certainly
unforgettable experiences. Every self-respecting
doom fan should try to make it to
such an event. It's an occasion
for sharing one's passion for
the music we all love so dearly, and
moreover, it is the perfect opportunity
to experience the genuinety and sincerity
of the doom metal community!
Recently
we have had a titan collision in Stockholm,
with the gig of Candlemass and Trouble.
If you were able to gather some bands
for the biggest doom metal gig, which
would they be?
Through the DSR fests
I have been able to see some great
doom bands including Count Raven,
Penance, Revelation, While Heaven
Wept and Thunderstorm so in part some
of my dreams have already been fulfilled.
However, I still long to see St Vitus,
Pentagram, Trouble and Candlemass
live although it looks like it's
going to be difficult in the case
of the latter as we now know that
the Candlemass re-union shall not
last any longer. Place of Skulls are
another band I'm really keen
on at the moments and I'd love
to see them live, and of course, Krux.
They'd be perfect for the occasion.
Now that
no one talks about the relation between
doom metal and stoner rock, do you
think that all this literature has
harmed doom metal or has it made it
stronger and more "concise"?
I think this is quite
a long-winded and exaggerated debate
and is not really doing anything for
the betterment of the doom metal scene.
I don't tend to judge bands
on their affiliation to one particular
genre or another, but rather in terms
of their own merit as a band. Although,
I have my own preferences when it
comes to doom, which basically revolve
around the epic and the more classic
doom metal idiom, I will not rule
out a band because they've been
labeled as a stoner act. Abdullah
present a case in point. They're
generally referred to act as stoner
act, for God's sake even Pentagram
have in some quarters; but this does
not mean that they don't deserve
respect and attention.
Ok, this
is silly, but let me ask you. Are
you aware that another band, Dionysus,
has named their LP after "Anima
Mundi"? If you had known it earlier
would you have changed the title of
the CD?
We always try to
ensure that our titles are not used
by any other band prior to releasing
our material. However, there's
so many bands out there that it's
difficult to ensure some sort of control
in this respect."
That's
all Albert. I wish you all the best
with "Anima Mundi". Take
care.
Thanks to you Giannis
and Alekos for this opportunity. I
wish you all the best for Metal Perspective
and life in general. Keep the flame
burning!
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