Dear Emrecan hi. First
of all thank you for talking to
Metal Perspective. I think that
we have a lot of thinks to discuss.
Hi Giannis. It’s a real pleasure
talking to you. Well as you mentioned
I guess we have a lot to discuss,
so shoot:)
Although there are a few
other releases preceded, "Sojourn"
is your first official work, isn’t
it? Can you tell us a few things
about it?
Yes, you are right. "Sojourn"
is our first official release and
we have released it through our
own record label, Tavanarasi Media.
Before "Sojourn", we had
a demo, titled as "Unforeseen
Reflections", which had some
pretty good reviews and comments
on the net as well as in pressed
magazines and at radio stations.
We have recorded "Sojourn"
here in Ankara, Turkey in between
January and May 2005, and sent it
to USA, to Jim Brick to master the
album.
At the same time, we wanted the
album to be a powerful one, as powerful
as it can get, and decided to work
with Kerem Beyit, a young, but highly
acclaimed artist, for the cover
and booklet illustrations of "Sojourn".
For releasing "Sojourn",
we have reached an agreement with
EMI Turkey for Turkish distribution,
as well as the collaboration of
The End Records and Musea for international
online shopping partners as a beginning.
We are now patching up more distributors
and shops through the globe for
"Sojourn" and for our
upcoming releases.

Are you satisfied with
the final result? What do you think
are the virtues of "Sojourn"?
We are satisfied with the final
result, if we consider the time
we have recorded it. Of course,
it does not reflect the technical
and musical aspect of Dreamtone
for the time being, considering
that it had been recorded almost
over 1.5 years ago, set aside the
composing stage, which took another
year or so, but it was a successful
start for us and it took just reviews
from almost all of the media channels
we have promoted it.
We think that "Sojourn"
is a good conceptual piece of work.
Its artwork, narrations, lyrics
and musical connections reflect
a pretty good structure, which supports
the overall storyline pretty well.
It has a good musicianship in it,
devoted with passion and moreover,
even if it resembles some elements
from our inspirations, it is quite
original in nature, which is a pretty
important and hard thing to come
by nowadays. So, considering all
these things, yes, we are satisfied
with the final result. But, you
know, there is always room for improvement
and we intend to have quite some
for our new record hehe.
Conversely, what are the
disadvantages of "Sojourn"
or better stated what are the things
that you think you need to improve?
Record was one thing for us. However,
it was the best we had at that moment.
The studio, the equipment and most
importantly, which covers all these
actually, money. We are particularly
happy with the final outcome but
we would be happy to have a better
recording. We are now expanding
our options and opportunities and
we believe that Dreamtone will move
several steps further with each
record. Another thing was that we
had to form a record label, which
caused us a delay of six months.
We would be more comfortable if
we were able to release it in late
2005 but a small delay is not that
important as things had to be in
this way. You know, you cannot force
it. It happens as it is supposed
to be, whether you intend to do
it different or not.
I have to admit that I
was impressed by the wonderful cover
and the professional packing (high
above the professional standards).
What I want to ask is how is related
the cover of ""Sojourn""
to its title?
Thank you for your compliment,
we try to give out our best. I will
answer your next question with this
answer as well as two questions
are similar in nature. The cover
reflects of an angel, a corrupted
one to be precise, who is chained.
According to the story, there is
an angel who tries to get back to
his family, to the reallife but
God rejects his ask, telling him
to stay beside her (by the way,
we wanted to have a woman to represent
God). As usual, our guy is a bit
hasty one and he tries to get back,
whether the God would be happy about
it or not. At that point, Devil
gets in touch with him, seeing his
corruption inside and convinces
him to have an agreement. The devil
grants him with a passage back to
Earth, while chaining his soul to
himself in secrecy. Tricks and foulplay
as you see.
The cover basically reflects that
concept. A corrupted angel, chained
and his chains held by his captor,
the Devil. The ships at the back
are images of souls being carried
towards the afterlife, which is
being represented by the horizon
in our artwork. However, a ship
has docked to the shores, while
all others are sailing towards the
horizon, it stays near the shore.
That ship is the one which has carried
our fool and sad angel. The city,
a foggy and rusty one, reflects
the life of our angel. Well, basically,
we tried to explain what is inside
briefly but for someone who read
and understood the concept, cover
artwork offers a bit more, near
to the inlay illustrations. And
"Sojourn", which resembles
a meaning of "a temporary,
brief stay", is being symbolized
by the overall picture. A ship gets
you to the shores while everyone
else seems to be leaving, and you
are not free to roam as you are
chained. Someone will pull your
strings eventually and will take
you back. That is how we wanted
to symbolize "Sojourn".
"Sojourn" seems
to be connected with a conceptual
line. Is there a particular concept
behind it?
I guess I covered it in my previous
answer :)
What are the stimuli for
your lyrics?
Lyricwise, we are not very keen
of strictly sticking to a seldom
or similar subjects. With "Sojourn",
we hid some basic elements of human
nature behind a fantasy fiction
story. Back in Unforeseen Reflections,
we had more personal lyrics, dealing
with death and its impact on oneself,
near to some political elements.
We are now working on our new record
and our first single title, Snowfall,
deals with political and social
issues about Africa and its nation.
You know, they are being harrassed.
We will play a bit political and
social probably in our next record,
which is currently scheduled for
2007’s first half. It will
have some fantasy elements and personal
elements as well in lyrics but the
usual theme seems like this at the
moment.
Also I noticed that although
you are a progressive metal band
(I must say that according to my
opinion you are a power/progressive
band) you follow a very conservative
approach for your compositions.
For example you do not have lengthy
songs, full of solos and instrumental
parts. Is this something purposive
or it came eventually during the
composing period?
We never compose to have a strict
formula actually. We are five different
musicians with five different points
of view. We discuss all the material
and shapen it according to our own
tastes, while keeping the original
pace of the songs. Most of the time,
songs are being composed by one
person. Either Oganalp, Onur or
Burak composes the song. Then the
guy gives it to general consideration
and re-shapen it according to overall
view. Then we record it, which is
a stage that adds extra touches
to the initial piece of work.
For us, it is not that important
to be classified as a power metal,
progressive metal or dark metal
band (we hear this one as well,
told for us recently). We classify
the music purely for commercial
issues you know, in order to reach
to the right audience. I mean, we
can label the music as hard rock,
but then, people would be shocked
when they listened the album. Our
influences are Blind Guardian, Symphony
X, Ayreon, Shadow Gallery and such.
As you can see, they are all power/progressive
metal bands. So, we try to label
it as power-progressive or progressive.
And besides, we would be bored
to have long hours of solos and
instrumental parts. Not every song
is that successful to attract attention,
set aside a long one. It is very
hard to compose one and unless we
believe that it will be another
The Odyssey (Symphony X), we prefer
to stay on safe ground. It would
be a torture for listeners to compose
long partitions just to stay within
the borders of a precise genre.
I see an intense activity
in Turkish metal. What is the current
state of Turkish metal?
Well, I will be sincere. Our scene
is quite a slow and weak one. Turkish
cultural improvements always came
10-15 years behind the schedule
and now, we are yet to find what
metal music is. In the recent years,
promoters found out that this is
also a commercial branch and so,
we have started to see good bands
playing here in Turkey, some even
touring like Anathema and Apocalyptica.
Internet also helps a lot to this
scene. Economic status leaves listeners
in a handicap, whether to buy CDs
and lay low in their lives, or prefer
living and using the net. The scene
will get better in time, resources
becoming easier to find, like internet
and connections and all that but
I don’t think it will get
big as Germany or Greece or Japan
in the future. It is not something
related only to metal music or bands,
but to the overall economic scale
of Turkey, which is not the best
to see.
Do you think that your
band can lead the Turkish scene?
Why not. We are not a band that
thinks "We will lead the scene
and evolution will start with us!".
Being a leader is not something
that you can want and become. It
needs time, it needs sacrifice and
people will eventually see you as
a leader. Being a leader doesn’t
mean to be a leader in all aspects
though. We may produce a good album
with certain aspects and people
may follow that idea, create better
ideas through it or we may have
a good stage costume and it may
affect certain musicians etc. I
hope we can become one, if we are
supposed to do so, with our good
achievements. I would prefer people
to follow really good examples to
evolve in balance and time will
tell whether we will be a good example
or not. We believe that we are a
good one at the moment though for
bands of our size or new bands starting
their musical journey.
I think that your move
to avoid folklore elements was right,
as it seems a profound and easy
way for any band that comes from
Eastern countries. However do you
ever think of adding such elements?
Who knows? We are experimenting
with ethnical ideas and instruments
but if the song doesn’t need
an ethnical, oriental approach,
why should we put some in it? We
are not of those people who insists
that musicians should put their
ethnical side to their music. Turkish
music is a hard one to perform and
it is quite different from the classical
western music, so it needs practice
over it to perform, set aside composing
it with elements of global culture.
We are not close to any ideas but
we will be cautious about using
ethnical elements. Don’t get
me wrong, we even have our ethnical
instruments at our homes but just
for the sake of having something
ethnical sounds ridicioulus to us.
Judging by your biography
you must be very proud of your live
appearances. Can you tell us a few
things about your gigs? Can you
share your impressions from your
latest support place to Blind Guardian?
We are happy with our live dates.
It may seem less when compared to
other bands but we had very good
live appearances and we don’t
remember any that we said "We
shouldn’t be here". They
were all entertaining and educating
as well as promoting. Generally,
most of the underground gigs attracts
50-100 people here due to time conflicts,
venue problems etc. Of course there
are some that attracts more but
I don’t remember having a
gig, save our first one, with less
than 100 people. We played to several
hundred people at festivals, had
TV appearances with our live performances,
near to becoming studio guests.
And Blind Guardian gig was a great
one actually. I don’t know
the exact numbers, but I guess there
were around 2000 people there, watching
us. And most of them were clapping
hands, screaming the choruses or
the famous "Ooh" parts
with us. There were even people
singing the whole damn songs! And
you know, playing to someone else’s
audience is perhaps the hardest
thing for a band as the audience
will eventually want to get rid
of you and if this "someone
else" is Blind Guardian, you
are in big trouble. Well, we weren’t
in any trouble and we had a good
show. We were happy, I heard that
the audience was happy in general
and the promoter was happy as well.
So, it was a nice experience.
And besides, we met with a band
that influenced us in the first
place, chit chatted with’em
and had some time. It was truly
a perfect Sunday for us.
Also what do you prefer?
Playing live or performing in the
studio?
That changes from person to person
I guess. Some of us prefers playing
live, some prefers recording and
some prefers composing in front
of his computer. Each one has its
own goods and bads. Unless you are
a big or known band, playing live
may get a pain in the ass. You may
be treated as a junk, you may have
a shitty sound, which we usually
have in Turkey even for big bands
like Megadeth and there is always
the risk of not having an audience.
On the other hand, it is fun! Composing
has its own high and lows. Creating
a new thing is a very much fun part.
For days and nights, you just daydream
about how would the song will sound
at recording and how may it suit
to the album, who can do an artwork
for it, bla bla… You know,
you simply fly away out of this
world and start living within the
song. But, at the end, you may loose
your touch and inspiration and it
may turn out to be another pain
in the ass…
It is very hard to decide actually.
The guest appearance of
Gary Wehrkamp is a very interesting
point in "Sojourn".
How was this realized?
Oganalp and Gary had a dialogue
formed back in 2003, prior to an
interview done by Oganalp for the
music magazine he works. Here and
then, Oganalp talked to Gary and
discussed stuff about Dreamtone,
and Gary eventually accepted taking
part in the album. He recorded his
own stuff at his studio and sent
it to us, then we mixed the stuff
with background themes and added
them to the final mix. We are hoping
to work with him in the future as
well.
However Gary contributed
as the narrator of the story. Would
you like to have a more extended
role? What prohibited a more active
participation?
We would definitely like him to
have as a guest "musician"
next time. He is a great guy first
of all, a great friend and a very
good expert who discusses everything
with you, without getting bored
of replying to long e-mails. And
he understands what we are trying
to do. He is a great musician and
a composer, near to his performing
abilities and we will definitely
have him play in our future works
as well (of course if he wants to
get involved hehe).
We weren’t able to have him
play any instruments in "Sojourn"
as the recordings were already started
when his contribution became clear.
We didn’t want to have him
as a "post it" guest
appearance that we had added in
the very last minute, so we basically
used his narrative voice. We needed
a narrator with a good accent, preferably
a native speaker, and eventually,
Gary become our narrator. I don’t
know if we will be able to have
him play in our next album but we
are willing to work with him in
the future. Gary is a busy guy,
working on several projects and
so. We may have some schedule problems
but time will tell…
You have placed some songs
in many web services, like Download.com.
How useful was this for your promotion
campaign?
Well, people like to listen before
buying a CD and we tried to give
them that. We had like 9.100 downloads
so far, promoting the band. People
either liked the songs, or hated
them, it doesn’t matter. But
they are becoming aware of the band
day by day and these free mp3 sites
have some credit in it, from our
perspective. Sites like download.com
or myspace helps us to reach a wider
audience. We are getting e-mails
from people, asking where they can
get the albums and stating that
they liked the songs presented at
those websites.
We know that some people are trying
to create a negative image of the
band by giving low grades at those
websites, but the best grade is
the one that a listener gives in
his/her head, so we don’t
care. And we don’t understand
why someone would do such stupid
things anyway.
Before I close this interview,
I would like to talk about a political
issue. Turkey is trying to enter
to European Union. How do you think
that a political action like this
will help you?
That is not a solid ground to step.
Too many ideas and very little knowledge
of general population, from both
sides (Europe and Turkey). Politics’
a science that is like the wind.
It may blow from one side a day,
and from the opposite one on the
next. Being a part of EU doesn’t
mean a positive or a negative thing
from our perspective. It will have
its aspects, good and bad. It may
help in one thing for bands like
us though, that is the foreign transportation
fees, which are perhaps the biggest
obstacle for small bands like us
for touring Europe. But from other
perspectives, we shall see what
will it offer to us, both as a country
and as bands.
That’s all from
me Emrecan. I wish you all the best.
Thank you for the interview. Hope
to talk to you soon! Near to our
expanding Turkish one, we have formed
an international forum and its fresh;
we welcome any listeners to our
domain at www.dreamtone.net!
Take care!